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Thich Nhat Hanh
· August 25, 2006
· Upper Hamlet, Plum Village, France
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Dear
Thay,
dear
Sangha.
Many
people
of
us
have
mainly
to
think
a
lot
during
working
in
companies
or
if
they
are
self-employed.
So
the
main
point
is
that
we
have
to
think
eight
or
nine
hours
a
day,
with
making
stops
too,
but
the
main
point
is
if
we
are
thinking,
I
can
speak
for
myself,
I
often
lose
my
breathing,
I
often
lose
my
insight,
I
often
lose
looking
deeply,
because
I
feel
that
I
have
to
succeed
something,
to
succeed
from
thinking,
to
produce
a
concept,
to
produce
a
product,
to
learn
about
a
product,
and
to
be
successful
in
my
results.
And
this
is
a
shame
and
a
sort
of
notion
anyway.
And
what
I
want
to
know
or
I
like
to
have
your
experience
if
you
write
poems
or
write
books
or
if
you
have
to
plan
and
organize
the
trip
to
Vietnam
in
2007.
You
have
a
lot
of
thinking
to
do
and
responsibility
that
you
succeed
in
talking
with
the
government,
with
the
Vietnamese
government,
and
so
you
could
feel
the
same
like
me
at
work.
So
my
question
is,
how
do
you
handle
that
you
can
stay
in
deep
looking
while
you
are
thinking,
that
you
are
aware
of
the
ultimate
reality
if
you
are
thinking?
You
talk
about
the
different
truth
and
which
truth
can
we
touch
while
we
are
thinking?
So
it
is
very
important
for
me
to
share
with
you
your
experience.
Thank
you.
In
the
Soto
tradition,
non-thinking
is
the
practice.
Just
sit
and
refrain
from
thinking.
Is
it
easy
to
do?
Is
it
possible?
Thinking
is
something
very
productive.
But
thinking
is
grounded
on
our
feelings,
on
our
perceptions.
So
thinking
is
a
kind
of
fruit.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
worries,
of
fear,
of
anguish,
that
is
also
a
very
fertile
ground
for
thinking.
And
this
kind
of
thinking
is
completely
useless,
non-productive,
harming.
That
is
why
as
meditators,
we
should
learn
the
art
of
non-thinking,
stopping
the
thinking,
and
learn
just
to
be.
Otherwise
you
are
only
your
thought.
I
remember
one
day
I
saw
a
cartoon
on
an
American
newspaper
with
Monsieur
le
philosophe
Descartes
in
his
formal
dress.
And
he
was
looking
at
a
horse
and
he
made
the
declaration,
"I
think,
therefore
I
am."
And
the
horse
asked,
"You
are
what?"
And
I
can
see
that
the
answer
is
we
are
our
thinking,
we
are
our
thought.
And
we
are
much
more
than
our
thought.
We
are
also
our
feelings,
our
perceptions,
our
wisdom,
our
happiness,
our
love.
We
are
more
than
our
thinking
and
we
should
not
allow
the
thinking
to
take
over.
And
the
thinking,
if
they
are
not
useful,
if
they
are
harmful,
then
it
is
better
not
to
have
them.
But
the
thinking
just
knock
the
door
and
come
in.
They
do
not
need
any
invitation.
When
you
practice
walking
meditation,
you
can
touch
reality,
you
can
touch
life
with
all
the
wonders
without
any
need
of
thinking
at
all.
When
I
say,
"I
have
arrived,"
that
is
not
a
thought,
that
is
a
practice.
I
want
to
stop
completely
the
thinking,
the
running
into
the
future
in
order
to
really
enjoy
the
step
I
make.
And
you
have
one
in-breath
in
order
to
do
the
stopping.
You
breathe
in
and
you
make
a
step.
And
you
have
five
or
six
seconds
in
order
to
stop
the
machine,
because
the
machine
is
turning.
And
you
allow
the
machine
to
carry
you
like
a
tornado.
That
is
the
case
of
many
of
us.
We
do
not
live
our
life,
we
allow
ourselves
to
be
sucked
away.
And
in
the
machine
there
is
a
lot
of
thinking.
So
you
have
five
seconds
in
order
to
stop.
And
for
practitioners
like
me,
five
seconds
is
largely
enough
to
stop
the
machine
and
to
really
be
established
in
the
here
and
the
now.
And
if
you
are
a
beginner,
you
might
allow
you
to
have
ten
seconds
or
twenty
seconds
until
you
can
completely
stop
the
machine.
You
can
allow
one
in-breath
and
you
can
allow
one
out-breath
with
one
step.
One
nerve
impulse,
one
action
potential
needs
one
millisecond.
And
you
have
five
thousand
milliseconds
in
order
to
stop
it.
And
if
you
want,
you
can
have
more
than
five
thousand,
you
have
ten
thousand
or
twenty
thousand
milliseconds
to
stop
it.
And
for
experienced
practitioner,
with
one
in-breath
or
one
step,
you
can
stop
the
machine.
And
you
release
completely
your
body
and
your
mind.
And
you
experience
the
bliss,
the
joy,
the
happiness
of
stopping.
And
during
that
time
of
stopping,
your
body
is
capable
of
healing
itself.
Your
mind
also
has
the
capacity
of
healing
itself.
And
who
prevent
you
to
continue
to
have
a
second
step,
a
second
breath?
And
instruments
are
there
for
you
to
heal
yourself:
your
steps,
your
breath.
That
is
śamatha.
Śamatha
means
stopping.
Śamatha,
the
first
meaning
of
śamatha,
which
is
the
first
component
of
meditation,
is
stopping,
to
help
to
stop
the
formation.
In
the
Saṃyutta
Nikāya,
there
is
a
definition
of
śamatha:
the
stopping
of
the
formation,
the
mental
formation.
The
mental
formation
is
maybe
anger,
maybe
the
eagerness
to
go
finding
for
something.
And
that
kind
of
force,
that
kind
of
energy
always
pushing
you,
even
during
your
sleep.
And
that
is
why
mindfulness
should
be
able
to
recognize
that
this
habit
energy
of
pushing
is
there.
And
having
recognized
it,
we
smile
to
it.
And
with
our
practice,
we
are
capable
of
helping
it
to
stop.
And
I
hope
that
our
friends,
the
scientists,
are
capable
of
doing
this,
because
they
do
have
also
a
very
strong
habit
energy
pushing
them
ahead.
And
many
of
them
are
not
capable
of
living
peacefully
in
the
here
and
the
now.
So
sitting
is
not
to
think,
just
to
enjoy
sitting.
And
with
your
body,
with
your
breath,
with
the
Dharma,
you
can
just
enjoy
deeply
the
sitting.
You
are
completely
alive,
very
alive
while
sitting.
While
walking,
while
lying
down,
while
washing
the
dishes,
while
brushing
your
teeth,
you
can
practice
stopping.
Śamatha
is
stopping.
And
I
hope
that
healers,
therapists,
psychotherapists,
medical
doctors
would
learn
to
apply
that
technique
to
themselves
and
help
the
patients,
help
the
people
who
come
to
them
to
practice.
Because
they
know
that
without
that
kind
of
relaxation
of
stopping,
it
is
very
difficult
to
heal.
We
cannot
count
on
medicine
alone.
And
therefore,
practicing
non-thinking,
enjoying
just
being
is
very
important.
That
is
the
foundation
of
the
practice.
When
you
write
a
poem,
you
should
not
think
about
the
poem.
When
you
give
a
Dharma
talk,
you
should
not
think
about
the
Dharma
talk.
You
allow
the
Dharma
talk
to
manifest.
You
allow
the
poem
to
manifest.
When
you
water
your
vegetable
garden
with
joy,
in
the
mood
of
non-thinking,
just
enjoy
the
watering,
just
enjoy
the
vegetable.
But
the
poem
is
being
born
and
grown
in
you.
It's
not
thinking
about
the
poem
that
you
have
a
poem.
A
poem
does
not
need
thinking
in
order
to
be
born.
And
if
you
live
deeply
and
happily
the
moment
when
you
water
your
lettuce
and
tomatoes,
then
sometimes
there
may
be
an
urge
for
you
to
sit
down
and
deliver
the
poem
like
a
baby.
And
I
write
poems
like
that.
I
do
not
have
to
think
about
the
poem
to
write.
A
poem
is
like
a
baby.
And
sometimes
the
baby
wants
to
manifest.
And
you
know,
you
feel
that,
you
sit
down
and
you
use
the
pen.
In
fact,
I
have
never
written
a
poem
on
the
computer.
All
my
poems
have
been
written
by
hand,
except
one.
That
day
I
did
not
have
a
pen,
so
I
used
the
typewriter.
And
I
know
that
as
an
artist,
you
might
like
to
follow
that
practice.
You
allow
the
art,
the
beauty
in
you
to
be
born,
to
grow,
and
sometimes
later
on,
it
will
tell
you
that
it
is
time
for
the
manifestation
of
the
artwork.
And
I
think
this
practicing
of
stopping,
especially
stopping
the
thinking
and
the
eagerness
to
run,
is
extremely
important
for
our
healing,
for
our
creation,
for
our
happiness.
And
if
our
friends
can
bring
that
practice
home,
that
would
be—the
retreat
would
already
be
a
big
success.
You
may
give
me
my
bag.
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